PSRU for LS1 Engines:
PSRU for Subaru:
Engine Package Questions:
Regarding
the Wheeler:
What temperature does the PSRU operate?
Our PSRU runs cool. High temp for our unit is 150 degrees F.
We test run each unit for an hour each before delivery, and the highest temperature we
have seen is 120 degrees F. You can expect to see higher temperatures at
climb out, but once you have leveled off the temps will normalize again.
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How is the PSRU lubricated?
This unit has a separate oil reservoir with its own oil pump and
filtration system, lubricating all of the gears, bearings, shafts, prop
hub and prop governor with clean, filtered oil as
long as the prop is turning.
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What type of oil is recommended?
We have tried virtually every kind of
oil and gear lube on the market, including five or more major brands of
synthetic gear lube. The only lubricant that has provided appropriate
lubrication and cooling with quiet and smooth operation is a
regular mineral type 85-140 gear lube. This
will be labeled "limited slip, API service GL-5" or greater.
It will generally be formulated with more or less enough
anti-foaming additive to keep the gear lube from foaming up, but
brands and even batches will vary. Because of this, gear lube
should be checked during ground testing when the PSRU is first
installed and checked to be sure it does not look grayish or
cloudy in color, which means it is foaming up. Should this
be the case, simply purchase "limited slip differential axle
additive" from your local auto parts store, and add one ounce at
a time until the gear lube runs clear. Foaming means that there
is too much air in the oil and that will not allow the lubricant
to film properly on the interior parts and will cause premature
wear of the internal components.
Never use synthetic lubricants in any of our products.
This is so important that we must tell you that you
will void your warranty with Geared Drives is you use anything other than
the lubricant we recommend. Synthetics work great in auto engines (but not if you are ever
going to use 100LL) but fail miserably in
a gear box environment as in a PSRU. Synthetic gear lubes in this
application simply did not provide adequate cooling or lubrication, and
will cause high operating temperatures, gear noise, and eventual failure
of the gears.
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How much oil does it hold?
The Geared Drives PSRU holds two quarts of gear lube. If you choose to
use an oil cooler, simply add the capacity of the oil cooler and the
lines to the fill up volume. Use only 85-140 mineral type gear lube with
anti foaming additive.
We have a customer who is using a Kingair type prop, and this prop and
hub demands so much oil volume that the only way to supply enough
lubrication to the PSRU, prop and and governor is to add an oil tank for
the PSRU to draw from and for the oil to return back to when the engine
is off. This kind of prop will draw enough of the oil out of the PSRU
that it will fail due to insufficient lubrication. If you are planning
to use a prop like this feel free to contact us for more information.
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How does the prop governor work on your
PSRU?
The Geared Drives PSRU pumps fresh filtered lubrication throughout the
entire system, and supplies oil to the prop governor, prop and hub,
The drive port for the governor is located on the left side of
the PSRU and driven from an accessory shaft that turns off the
splines on the prop shaft. The
other end of the accessory shaft powers the oil pump for the
PSRU.
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Will my prop governor work with your PSRU?
If your prop turns the conventional direction and your prop
governor turns clockwise, it will work with our PSRU with no
modifications. We have not
found any particular brand of prop governor that does not work with our
system. . Even though we are
supplying oil at 60 PSI to the prop governor, we have found that a prop
governor does not require a massive quantity of oil if the governor and
propeller are in good repair and are not leaking. The prop governor
itself is an oil pump, so as long as it has a constant steady
oil supply it will function properly. We have tested this
theory by cutting down
the oil flow with a 1/8" orifice and the prop governor still worked
correctly. We do not have oil temp problems, governor problems, no
problems at all with our PSRU.
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Why do you use a centrifugal clutch?
The centrifugal clutch serves a number of different
functions, but the primary and most important is that it serves to resolves torsional vibration by means of a set of heavy
polymer coated springs in the center of the clutch disc. Since the
clutch disc, flywheel and pressure plate do not constitute a hard
connection, there is thought that perhaps some of the harmonic issues
might be solved there as well. In addition, the centrifugal clutch
engages the prop at low RPM and after the engine is already running,
which could dramatically extend the life of your starter.
Clutches have been used in auto engines to dampen harmonics
between the engine and transmission for
many years. Without a clutch in your transmission to serve this
purpose, your vehicle would hop and skip down the road instead
of rolling smoothly to your destination.
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My old PSRU chatters and jumps around at low RPM. Does
yours?
No it does not. We tested our PSRU for literally hundreds of hours on the ground and
experienced no chattering or vibrations at any RPM. We flew our Wheeler
for nearly 700 hours with great success and no torsional vibration. Our
PSRU operates smoothly at every RPM and transitions equally
as smoothly from high to low RPM and everything in the middle.
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How do you resolve torsional vibrations?
Years of designing, redesigning, going back to the drawing board and
starting over have yielded a PSRU which utilizes a custom designed
centrifugal clutch assembly. This was designed specifically for use on
an automotive engine for experimental aircraft, and incorporates a
center clutch disc with polymer encased springs. This use of this disc
not only makes the system work and eliminates torsional vibration, it
offloads the engine long enough get it started which avoids strain on
the starter. There is virtually no wear on the clutch disc
since it simply engages and then disengages. The harder the
engine is running, the more firm the connection.
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What about planetary gears in a PSRU?
I choose to use the best for safety and dependability in the Geared
Drive. For this reason, I am against the use of planetary gears in a
PSRU. Consider what they were designed for; to change an automatic
transmission from one gear and into another. They were designed to work
at high RPM for only short periods of service. They are very small and
turn at ultra high RPM when in continuous use, and from twenty plus
years of personal experience in professional auto racing, my personal
opinion is that there is no way that planetary gears can possibly hold
up long term. The strongest and most dependable kind of gear is a
straight cut spur, which is what I chose to use in the Geared Drive PSRU.
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Do you test run each Geared Drives
PSRU?
Yes. We have an early model LT Chevrolet 350 engine that we use to test
run each PSRU. For break in, we bolt on an 80” Hartzell Propeller and
test run for one hour following the resolution of any leaks that might
be found. This allows the seals to seat in, and operating temperatures
to normalize. We run the unit from 500 RPM all the way up to takeoff RPM
of 3900-4500, and everything in between. We are able to cycle the prop,
make many engine RPM changes, and put the engine and PSRU through the
same paces that you would if you were ground testing it on your aircraft. This
way, we can ship these units out knowing that all is exactly as it
should be. To witness this test run is an incredible sight-the
smoothness and ease of operation is really rather incredible.
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How much HP will your PSRU take?
We have had great success with 405 HP in our 383 Chevrolet for the
nearly 700 hours that we flew our test aircraft, so we can say for a
fact we know that it will hold 400 HP.
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I have an electric prop. Can I use it with your PSRU?
Yes.
When you place your order one of the things we require is that
you indicate your prop type and bolt pattern so we can drill the
prop shaft correctly. We provide a plug at no cost to you for the prop shaft to close
off the hydraulic system if you are going to use your electric
prop.
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Can I use a fixed pitch prop?
We have long stated that we have no restrictions on
which prop you can use with our PSRU and to the largest extent
that is true, however be aware of the following:
1) Fixed pitch props lack the protection of a prop governor
which means there is no provision to keep the prop from
"over speeding".
2) KingAir props. These props require an inordinate volume of
oil and literally suck the PSRU dry of oil. If you must use one,
contact us about how to construct and plumb in an auxiliary oil
tank for the PSRU to draw from and to provide a place for the
oil to drain back into when the engine is shut down.
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Any plans for a PSRU for Mazda?
Yes. Our 200Z Zero Offset PSRU fits Mazda, Subaru, Corvair, VW,
etc and adapts by means of a mounting plate specific to the engine.
We have just sold out our first run of these units, and already have
several customers flying with the 200Z and reporting exceptional
performance, commenting on how smooth and powerful their engines now
run. They are also reporting cooler engine temperatures, improved climb
rates and more economical fuel burn.
It appears that we
have built a gearbox that the Eggenfellner owners would not only
be pleased to fly, but will improve their engine and aircraft
performance far beyond their expectations.
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Why build a FWF package for the RV-10?
The RV-10 is a perfect airframe for an engine such as the LS1. The LS1
and Geared Drives engine package is ideal for pretty much any
application that would normally have called for an IO-540 or O-540. This
engine package, ready to run with all accessories including
radiator, starter, alternator, oil and water, comes in about 20 lbs less
that the average IO-540. So the old myths that auto engines are so heavy
is not entirely accurate when you consider the modern auto engines of
today. We have developed a firewall forward package for the RV-10 that
would allow the owner to basically bolt the thing on, wire it up, hang
the prop, and go fly.
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How much does an LS1 engine package weigh
vs. an IO-540?
The ready to fly weight of the LS1 (less prop), complete with PSRU,
flywheel, engine, radiator, all accessories, including alternator and
starter, water and oil, comes in just under 500#. Recently, we removed
an IO-540 from a Glasair III and weighed it (no prop) and on certified aircraft
scales it came in at 530# (less prop). Yes, the LS1, ready to fly, less
prop, apples to apples, weights in less than an IO-540 and has a lot more
horsepower and torque.
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How does the engine RPM compare to the IO-540?
The LS1 will happily operate at higher RPM than the
IO-540. What makes the
difference is that the IO-540 as a reciprocating engine which has a long
stroke and monstrously large, heavy pistons. The LS1 runs at a higher
RPM than does the IO-540, but the rods and pistons are so very much
smaller and lighter that the certified engine pistons. Put this into
perspective, only one piston from out of a I0-540 weighs nearly what an
entire set of LS1 pistons weighs. The lighter pistons of the LS1 in this
smooth running and well balanced engine are not creating a lot of wear
and tear in the engine. The LS1 engine is capable of running happily at
a higher RPM with
no problems at all. Chevrolet has tested these engines unmercifully and
they have proven their durability again and again.
The
engine RPM range that we advocate using for aircraft use is really quite
mild for the LS1. We like to see takeoff RPM’s around 3900-4000, not
because more is hard on the engine, but because this is all you need for
awesome performance and fantastic climb rates when combined with the
Geared Drives PSRU and a constant speed prop. You can even go up as high
as 4200-4300 RPM if you have a heavy load, and it will not hurt
the engine. With the Geared Drives PSRU and property set prop governor, you will not over speed the prop
and you will have lots of excess power at your disposal. You will
however, need to be judicious in how you apply that power. These engines
have so much power that it would be easy to torque-roll the airplane
if you apply it all at once.
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Thoughts on your engine packages on P-51 replicas?
We think that the P-51 is an excellent platform for a Chevy and the
Geared Drives PSRU. We met half a dozen or so fellows at OSH this year
with P-51 replicas and I am anxious to get one in the air with my PSRU
on it behind a Chevrolet. Apparently, some years back, they used to have
a source of a geared redrive that they liked to use, however it did not
have all of the accessory drives built in like ours does. I am told that
the builder is no longer producing the PSRU, and they are looking for a
supplier for a geared drive that will perform the way they need it to.
Our PSRU would allow their installation to be so much more simple, would
eliminate the additional accessory drives that many currently have to
use, and save on weight and initial cost. We currently have two
customers with FEW Mustangs that have just taken delivery and
they both at making fast work of completing their aircraft. We will post photos and performance information as we are able
to obtain it.
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How about Chevrolet engines for twins?
If you are considering two Chevrolet engines you could use marine parts
in your right engine for counter rotation. It would entail a marine oil
pump, camshaft, starter, possibly a few other details. The stock
alternator should work just fine. This really makes sense for a twin,
since you would then have no critical engine. I am sure that you could
build up an early model Chevrolet engine this way, but you might check
on whether you could match a late model LS1 engine with one for marine
application, since we have not yet built engines for a twin. Our Geared Drives PSRU works equally well
for both tractor or pusher. Be advised that you will need to work
out a mounting locations for radiators, develop different cowl
ventilation than that required for an air cooled certified
engine and custom engine mounts must be designed as well.
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How about diesel
engines in aircraft?
I do not
advocate the use of a diesel engine in an experimental aircraft. My
educated opinion is that the engine compression strokes are so
violent that they would likely tear up the PSRU, or any other one for that
matter. My PSRU
has proven to be the toughest one around and I would not put in on a
diesel under any circumstances because of the engine power pulses. High
compression, strong engine pulsations, etc, together with the limited
altitude ceiling for a diesel do not, in my opinion, make any sense
to use in aircraft, both in terms of safety and cost. The
diesel also adds a huge
weight penalty compared to gas powered auto engine conversions. I feel so
strongly about this that I will not sell any drive of mine to anyone
planning to use it on a diesel engine. I do not
want to be any part of someone hurting themselves or others doing
something that goes against what I know is good sound advice.
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What cooling setup do you recommend for your engine
packages?
There may be variations from one airframe to another,
but in general, I make the following recommendations for a
tractor configuration: Whether it is a one or two radiator
configuration, I want to see each with an air inlet scoop that
will allow a large volume of fresh air directly through the
coils of the radiator. NACA scoops look great but are mounted so
they are inside the boundary layer of air around the cowl in
flight and will not capture enough forced air to provide
sufficient fresh air flow. Cowl side inlet scoops reach
out beyond the quiet boundary layer of air and grab air from off the
prop and it is then forced through the radiators. These
air inlet scoops should have approximately the same air volume
as the front inlets on the cowl. When you add side cowl scoops,
you must now block off the
front air inlets altogether as they will inhibit the high
pressure zone you are trying to set up. Then supply a
fresh air inlet approximately 3-4 square inches in size just
underneath the spinner to provide air to the PSRU. Combine all
of that with 1.5 to 2.0 times the square inches of exit air as
you have cowl side scoop and your engine will run cool. This has
never failed us. If it designed correctly there will be no
need for fans on the radiators.
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What about baffling?
You will only need to baffle between the radiator and
the cowl. The baffles should be relatively close and tight but
are not extremely critical; even if you were to lose five percent of the air
around the baffle it will not adversely effect the cooling due
to the sheer volume of air that will be introduced through the
cowl from the side cowl scoops We are also against ducting
air from the front air inlets to the radiators inside the cowl
because it doesn't maximize air circulation to the radiators,
and the ducts block the cool air from circulating around the
engine.
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Did you say close off the front air inlets?
We do not recommend you rely on the front air inlets to
supply enough fresh air to cool the engine and cool the water in
the radiator. This is because there is not enough air through
the front inlets alone to sufficiently cool a V8. The reason there is
not a large volume of air generated through the cowl from the
front air inlets on most aircraft is because the propeller
is generally rounded at the root and does not move air like the
airfoil part does. This being the case, we prefer to go to the side of the cowl and capture
the
air we need to achieve cooling.
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What controls are used with your engine package?
You will use a key or push button to start, and your prop
adjustment. That's it. There is no fuel mixture since ECU makes
those adjustments automatically.
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The second issue with loss of a serpentine belt is that the
alternator will no longer charge the batteries. We always recommend
that you use a two battery system with each battery on a
separate switch. Use both for take off and climb out,
then switch one off at altitude so you always have a battery in
reserve. A battery in good condition and fully charged can give
you thirty to forty-five minutes of flight time, but certainly
enough to get you to the nearest safe place to land.
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What engine functions should be monitored?
We recommend that you monitor engine oil temperature,
oil pressure, engine water temperature, gearbox temperature, and
gearbox oil pressure. We also recommend that you use
automotive type gauges as a back up to your monitoring system.
We have found that some customers do not have the correct
sensors for their engine monitoring system, and the results are
off the wall crazy readings. If your readings seem off, verify
that your electronic sensors are reading properly by checking
against a mechanical automotive type gauge. For temp
sensors, test by placing it in boiling water and verify 212
̊ F readings. Contact your engine
monitoring system vendor if you have any issues with incorrect
readings.
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What engine monitoring system do you recommend?
You may use any engine monitoring system you desire. It can be
as simple as automotive type gauges on your panel if you are
from the old school, or as elaborate as a glass panel if you
like. Each builder has to determine his preferences in this way.
There are many different systems from which to choose, so as
part of your due diligence, be sure that the system you are
contemplating supports the V8 auto engine. This means that some
will have to install the correct sensors within the
instrumentation, or change some of the calibrations in order for
your readings to be correct. Incorrect sensors or
calibrations will result in unrealistic readings, such as engine
oil pressures of 85-100 psi etc.
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Bud Warren's
plans to replace the Wheeler:
Currently, we have had to place our plans for replacing our aircraft on
the back burner for a while. Business is such that we must focus all of
our time and energy on completing our PSRU orders and aircraft projects
currently in our shop in order to serve all of our customers. We have
been busy developing, flying and producing the 200Z PSRU for Subaru as well, and
have just sold out the entire first run.
You may see us flying the Ravin 500 owned by Woodward Aviation
from time to time this year as we continue to rack up hours on
the engine package.
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How did your PSRU
fare after the fire and forced landing?
I salvaged the 383 engine and Geared Drives PSRU from the fire and
disassembled them to see how they fared from the impact and engine
fire. The engine had lost power due to the fire taking out
the electrical system so the prop was just wind-milling when we touched
down, but
even so, I was humbled to find that the PSRU was totally undamaged. I
mic'd the prop shaft to within .001 of its original dimension. There was
no damage to bearings, bearing surfaces, shafts, or even the PSRU case.
I am grateful that no one was injured, and humbled to be able to say
that my PSRU has proven itself to me. Sometimes you have to
laugh in order to keep on going, and I can laugh and say that we have
tested this unit all the way into the ground!
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